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So what are the best rare beasts?

luket22luket22 Member Posts: 47 ✭✭
got these atm for event 
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  • benbqbenbq Member Posts: 501 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    That is a very good hand. I doubt you will find a use for the ford Scorpio or that 330d though.

    i am very partial to the Audi Quattro, and Subaru XT and forester for rainy conditions. 
  • KaramataKaramata Member Posts: 76
    edited November 2017
    From what we discussed in another topic, it's may be good to have a Corvette 396 or a Merc 190 Evo for top speed & 1mile drag (probably the former), but you're on spot with the drifters. I think the Accord can match the Focus and the Civic, but one can't have everything after all... Audi Quatro is a better option if you want a 4WD, though. This Ford won't do much.
  • HuacanachaHuacanacha Member, Wrenchmen, Senior Wrenchmen Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    The Ford Focus is a handling first vehicle that lose against more balanced cars for most events and have its **** handed to it by the white and light brigade (D10 Caterham, D11 Chevette) I handling races. I had a whole fleet of 5 of those for a while. Then the stock ones were upgraded to appease the higher level event gods. I also had 5 El Caminos but all but two of them suffered a similar fate. I sold the upgraded Focus for cash.
  • NumarNumar Member Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭✭✭
    M3 for city streets
    Chevette for slalom/kart
    corvette for mile drag
    el camino for short drag
    accord/civic for versatility
    cadillac sts for rainy fast track
    subaru xt for rainy twisty track
  • benbqbenbq Member Posts: 501 ✭✭✭✭
    El Camino beats corvette barely in 1 mile
  • nipan_TopDrivesnipan_TopDrives Member Posts: 246 ✭✭✭
    what should be the upgrades @Numar ???
  • NoxialisNoxialis Member Posts: 191 ✭✭✭
    Use the Civic, 330D, El Camino.
    The other two I leave to you.
  • B31ieveB31ieve Member Posts: 71 ✭✭
    Good cars. Be sure to keep an 02 Forester or Subaru XT if you get one, those are good. I'm also using a Ford Mondeo ST200 in my hand, and it isn't bad. 
  • benbqbenbq Member Posts: 501 ✭✭✭✭
    Disagree on the 330d, the M3 is better 
  • HuacanachaHuacanacha Member, Wrenchmen, Senior Wrenchmen Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    M3 seems completely useless to me. Lacks midrange vs say the Civic and with worse handling. I don't think I've lost to an equivalently tuned one yet. I do see a lot of people singing it's promises though... what tracks is it supposed to excel at?
  • HuacanachaHuacanacha Member, Wrenchmen, Senior Wrenchmen Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As for the diesels... well they just aren't racing cars unfortunately. Too heavy and with appalling midrange. Nice and quick off the line though with all that torque.
  • NumarNumar Member Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭✭✭
    M3 3/3/2 is pretty good for fast track , i'll max the accord 2/3/3 for twisties and chevette for slalom , corvette is for long drag or bowl test , el camino for short drag both 3/3/2
  • benbqbenbq Member Posts: 501 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Yes the M3 is a monster for fast track but also a top 3 contender for multiple other races making it more versatile than other cars. Yes there may be one car that can outpace it in a certain event, but there isn’t always a guarantee that your car will be useful because track conditions are random. The M3 just powers through almost any track in a pinch. For example the alycone May beat it in test bowl but i would way rather have the M3 in my lineup because test bowl doesn’t always show up... and the alycone sucks at everything but top speed 
  • HuacanachaHuacanacha Member, Wrenchmen, Senior Wrenchmen Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    I don't see the advantage over the Civic honestly, which is equally versatile. M3 looks like it has acceleration and top speed but maxed 330 tuning looses 0-100 (in wet at least) and most courses I've seen it on to my 222 max tuned Civic. Maybe dry conditions or over 1/4 mile will be better, but in that case I would deploy El Camino anyway if possible. Maybe it's just the matchups I've seen haven't been favorable.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • NumarNumar Member Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    I did wonder what to choose between civic , m3 and merc 190evo but as i built a chevette and an Accord i Wasnt in need of a grip car (already had el camino and corvette) , merc has better top speed but low mid and low grip so i choose m3...
    And if you dont have 80´s cars for'event...
  • HuacanachaHuacanacha Member, Wrenchmen, Senior Wrenchmen Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can confirm M3 beats civic in drags (1/4 mile and 1/2). So there’s that. Looks like I need to switch out the Subaru XT for the Forester for this event... too many of those rainy city streets coming up for the low ride height of the XT.
  • benbqbenbq Member Posts: 501 ✭✭✭✭
    Yep can confirm I benched my XT for the forester as well. 
  • benbqbenbq Member Posts: 501 ✭✭✭✭
    Man I didn’t realize the slalom power of that chevette!! It just got a permanent spot on my team 
  • bobdylanbobdylan Member Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Acidently sold my chevette   :s the merc e190 is a big let down really should be better than it is. 

    Euro accord  
    El Camino 
    Ford focus st 
    M3  
    Chevette 
    Civic type  r
    Audi quattro 
    Caterham 
    Forester 
  • bobdylanbobdylan Member Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Baby elan showing promise  as my chevette stand in
  • bobdylanbobdylan Member Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • NumarNumar Member Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Always a good idea to invest in light weight car !! That's why i'll feed the McLaren with this

    2000kg
  • DARKKiDARKKi Member Posts: 67
    After the upgrades and new vehicles what Rare's would you recommend now? :smile:
  • AntounAntoun Member Posts: 401 ✭✭✭
    DARKKi said:
    After the upgrades and new vehicles what Rare's would you recommend now? :smile:
    The Suzuki Swift Rally
    Corvette C4
    Ford Ranger
    Lotus Elise 1.6
  • jczerojczero Member Posts: 451 ✭✭✭
    Antoun said:
    DARKKi said:
    After the upgrades and new vehicles what Rare's would you recommend now? :smile:
    The Suzuki Swift Rally
    Corvette C4
    Ford Ranger
    Lotus Elise 1.6
    How’s corvette good? Better grip than el Camino?
  • AntounAntoun Member Posts: 401 ✭✭✭
    jczero said:
    Antoun said:
    DARKKi said:
    After the upgrades and new vehicles what Rare's would you recommend now? :smile:
    The Suzuki Swift Rally
    Corvette C4
    Ford Ranger
    Lotus Elise 1.6
    How’s corvette good? Better grip than el Camino?
    Much better grip, the C4 was C Class before the update...
  • jczerojczero Member Posts: 451 ✭✭✭
    Antoun said:
    jczero said:
    Antoun said:
    DARKKi said:
    After the upgrades and new vehicles what Rare's would you recommend now? :smile:
    The Suzuki Swift Rally
    Corvette C4
    Ford Ranger
    Lotus Elise 1.6
    How’s corvette good? Better grip than el Camino?
    Much better grip, the C4 was C Class before the update...
    I know, same thing as with ford wildtrak, but again they are least used in both C and D
  • DARKKiDARKKi Member Posts: 67
    Any of these worth keeping?
    • Audio Quattro
    • BMW 330d
    • Chevrolet Corvette C4
    • Nissan Primera eGT
    • Vauxhall Chevette HSR
    • Volvo C70 T5
    • BMW 325i
    • Mercedes-Benz 280 GE
    • Chevrolet Impala SS
    • Honda CRX VTEC
    • Rover 216
  • willcf15willcf15 Member Posts: 231 ✭✭✭
    DARKKi said:
    Any of these worth keeping?
    • Audio Quattro
    • BMW 330d
    • Chevrolet Corvette C4
    • Nissan Primera eGT
    • Vauxhall Chevette HSR
    • Volvo C70 T5
    • BMW 325i
    • Mercedes-Benz 280 GE
    • Chevrolet Impala SS
    • Honda CRX VTEC
    • Rover 216
    -The Audi Quattro is a good offroad straight liner, and also carries medium ride hight. Performance on-road is largely underwhelming
    -the 330d seems to underperform relative to its stats. Probably only useful on a diesel event or something
    -The corvette C4 is strong for the class, but since there are so many better straightliners down there, I think it struggles to find a niche
    -the Nissan Primera eGT is largely outclassed by the Chevette
    -I've gotten a lot of use out of the Chevette HSR. The only real advantage over the Elise 1.6 is city streets though
    -The 280 GE is a really solid offroader, and has pretty strong mid- to high-end acceleration. Even better now that it's high ride height

    No experience with the rest though

  • dunowedunowe Member Posts: 349 ✭✭✭
    • Audio Quattro
    • BMW 330d
    • Chevrolet Corvette C4 -> still wondering if this will be the best in some track?
    • Nissan Primera eGT
    • Vauxhall Chevette HSR -> very good, i think the best in city streets
    • Volvo C70 T5
    • BMW 325i
    • Mercedes-Benz 280 GE -> very good off roader (snow, wet dirt)
    • Chevrolet Impala SS ->
    • Honda CRX VTEC
    • Rover 216
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