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Car Corrections (updated 18th December 2018)

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  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    mikes said:
    Here's another comparison of Z06 vs GT-R. The Z06 (and the new ZR1) are some of the grippiest roads ever made in terms of lateral acceleration thanks to extremely wide, near race tires. I've been arguing that I think the numbers in this game are too low for the C7 Z06 and C7 ZR1.

    I've posted this before, but look where the new ZR1 is in terms of lap times. Only beat by the new 911 GT2 RS and faster than the 918 Spyder. The new Z06 is 11th on the list with the NISMO GT-R is 23rd.


    This comparisons made in USA are lot of ****.Are you trying to tell me that ZR1 will win any track race with spyder or mclaren 720?I love american cars.Don't get me wrong but be real man.I know how america is great but if we talkinkg now about cars there is always better Eu made car than U.S one.Better grip and better performance.Are you trying to tell me that U.S making best sport cars?Coz I fell like it...In EU American performance cars are only good because they cheap compare to any EU sport car and that's it.



    You are mad man thinking ZR 1 can win any track race with 720s
  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    And I know what you will say...it's drag race...but even around the track Zr 1will lose...sorry mate :D
    If you watch U.S cars vid and E.U you should now that in every U.S vid they they say how good U.S car is and vice versa
  • mikesmikes Member Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a surprising, European-centric response. I’m shocked. :D

    Believe what you will, but until you’ve actually driven these cars in a track environment (with the proper training and skill), or watch a professional throw down a few hot laps in person, it’s all just conjecture and paper racing. 

    USA does not make the best sports cars, but when it comes to flat out track times, the ZR1 and 1LE are monsters. 

  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    mikes said:
    What a surprising, European-centric response. I’m shocked. :D

    Believe what you will, but until you’ve actually driven these cars in a track environment (with the proper training and skill), or watch a professional throw down a few hot laps in person, it’s all just conjecture and paper racing. 

    USA does not make the best sports cars, but when it comes to flat out track times, the ZR1 and 1LE are monsters. 

    Like this corvette?Vid Made in USA.I see american dream is still alive😂


  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    mikes said:
    What a surprising, European-centric response. I’m shocked. :D

    Believe what you will, but until you’ve actually driven these cars in a track environment (with the proper training and skill), or watch a professional throw down a few hot laps in person, it’s all just conjecture and paper racing. 

    USA does not make the best sports cars, but when it comes to flat out track times, the ZR1 and 1LE are monsters. 

    And at the moment your timings are just on paper.Show me any Vid where Zr 1 beat spider or 720
  • joel24joel24 Member Posts: 606 ✭✭✭
    Idk how they determine handling for each car....  chiron with 91 handling which is more than pikes peak. Twizzy with 1 handling pt more than a 6wd  car (maybe that makes sense ), gt2 rs with less handling than 918 .  And that escort, boy is it fast in the cities ! 
  • joel24joel24 Member Posts: 606 ✭✭✭
    And not to mention dodge demons handling.....
  • HeissRodHeissRod Member Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    krystian said:
    mikes said:
    What a surprising, European-centric response. I’m shocked. :D

    Believe what you will, but until you’ve actually driven these cars in a track environment (with the proper training and skill), or watch a professional throw down a few hot laps in person, it’s all just conjecture and paper racing. 

    USA does not make the best sports cars, but when it comes to flat out track times, the ZR1 and 1LE are monsters. 

    Like this corvette?Vid Made in USA.I see american dream is still alive😂


    That vid is 7 years old and is not a ZR1, genius.
  • HeissRodHeissRod Member Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    And here's the vids of those times above, which were "only on paper".  I'm sure you'll come back with some stupid cocky, Euro response about how the drivers were terrible, so I don't know why I even bother.  You do realize though, that the time differential is 0.2 seconds, right?  Might as well just call them even.  On another day, the times could be reversed by the same amount.

    Lightning Lap ZR-1


    McLaren 720S

  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    HeissRod said:
    krystian said:
    mikes said:
    What a surprising, European-centric response. I’m shocked. :D

    Believe what you will, but until you’ve actually driven these cars in a track environment (with the proper training and skill), or watch a professional throw down a few hot laps in person, it’s all just conjecture and paper racing. 

    USA does not make the best sports cars, but when it comes to flat out track times, the ZR1 and 1LE are monsters. 

    Like this corvette?Vid Made in USA.I see american dream is still alive😂


    That vid is 7 years old and is not a ZR1, genius.
    Where did I say it's ZR1 genius?
  • NinjaDesignzNinjaDesignz Member Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    krystian said:
    mikes said:
    What a surprising, European-centric response. I’m shocked. :D

    Believe what you will, but until you’ve actually driven these cars in a track environment (with the proper training and skill), or watch a professional throw down a few hot laps in person, it’s all just conjecture and paper racing. 

    USA does not make the best sports cars, but when it comes to flat out track times, the ZR1 and 1LE are monsters. 

    Like this corvette?Vid Made in USA.I see american dream is still alive😂


    The shelby gt500 was never meant to be a track car. It's a drag car, just like the hellcat 
  • NinjaDesignzNinjaDesignz Member Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    joel24 said:
    And not to mention dodge demons handling.....
    And hellcat lol
  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    Hellcat widebody 303 have 94 grip.033 maybe it's 95.I don't know.Old ZR1 1993 with the same grip as GTR.That is interesting
  • HeissRodHeissRod Member Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    krystian said:
    HeissRod said:
    krystian said:
    mikes said:
    What a surprising, European-centric response. I’m shocked. :D

    Believe what you will, but until you’ve actually driven these cars in a track environment (with the proper training and skill), or watch a professional throw down a few hot laps in person, it’s all just conjecture and paper racing. 

    USA does not make the best sports cars, but when it comes to flat out track times, the ZR1 and 1LE are monsters. 

    Like this corvette?Vid Made in USA.I see american dream is still alive😂


    That vid is 7 years old and is not a ZR1, genius.
    Where did I say it's ZR1 genius?
    So then you're saying that the video you posted has zero relevance as a reply to Mike's comment, then.  Got it.
  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    HeissRod said:
    krystian said:
    HeissRod said:
    krystian said:
    mikes said:
    What a surprising, European-centric response. I’m shocked. :D

    Believe what you will, but until you’ve actually driven these cars in a track environment (with the proper training and skill), or watch a professional throw down a few hot laps in person, it’s all just conjecture and paper racing. 

    USA does not make the best sports cars, but when it comes to flat out track times, the ZR1 and 1LE are monsters. 

    Like this corvette?Vid Made in USA.I see american dream is still alive😂


    That vid is 7 years old and is not a ZR1, genius.
    Where did I say it's ZR1 genius?
    So then you're saying that the video you posted has zero relevance as a reply to Mike's comment, then.  Got it.
    Stop this childish conversation mate.Im only proving that GTR grip is to low IG compare to other cars IG.
  • HeissRodHeissRod Member Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    krystian said:
    HeissRod said:
    krystian said:
    HeissRod said:
    krystian said:
    mikes said:
    What a surprising, European-centric response. I’m shocked. :D

    Believe what you will, but until you’ve actually driven these cars in a track environment (with the proper training and skill), or watch a professional throw down a few hot laps in person, it’s all just conjecture and paper racing. 

    USA does not make the best sports cars, but when it comes to flat out track times, the ZR1 and 1LE are monsters. 

    Like this corvette?Vid Made in USA.I see american dream is still alive😂


    That vid is 7 years old and is not a ZR1, genius.
    Where did I say it's ZR1 genius?
    So then you're saying that the video you posted has zero relevance as a reply to Mike's comment, then.  Got it.
    Stop this childish conversation mate.Im only proving that GTR grip is to low IG compare to other cars IG.
    Backpedal all you want.  You were trying to make fun of the Corvette and got proved wrong.
  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    HeissRod said:
    krystian said:
    HeissRod said:
    krystian said:
    HeissRod said:
    krystian said:
    mikes said:
    What a surprising, European-centric response. I’m shocked. :D

    Believe what you will, but until you’ve actually driven these cars in a track environment (with the proper training and skill), or watch a professional throw down a few hot laps in person, it’s all just conjecture and paper racing. 

    USA does not make the best sports cars, but when it comes to flat out track times, the ZR1 and 1LE are monsters. 

    Like this corvette?Vid Made in USA.I see american dream is still alive😂


    That vid is 7 years old and is not a ZR1, genius.
    Where did I say it's ZR1 genius?
    So then you're saying that the video you posted has zero relevance as a reply to Mike's comment, then.  Got it.
    Stop this childish conversation mate.Im only proving that GTR grip is to low IG compare to other cars IG.
    Backpedal all you want.  You were trying to make fun of the Corvette and got proved wrong.
    What did I proved wrong?What's grip of this corvette IG?Tell me please

  • HeissRodHeissRod Member Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From what I can tell, since most of the car is covered by the numbers, that's the A26 Corvette Z06, so 88 stock; 2 points higher than the Nissan.
  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    HeissRod said:
    From what I can tell, since most of the car is covered by the numbers, that's the A26 Corvette Z06, so 88 stock; 2 points higher than the Nissan.
    It's from the vid I posted before and you asked if got anything to do with it...Did you watched?Yes 2 grip more on standard cars and 3 more grip on maxed one.Difference is too big 
  • HeissRodHeissRod Member Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    krystian said:
    HeissRod said:
    From what I can tell, since most of the car is covered by the numbers, that's the A26 Corvette Z06, so 88 stock; 2 points higher than the Nissan.
    It's from the vid I posted before and you asked if got anything to do with it...Did you watched?Yes 2 grip more on standard cars and 3 more grip on maxed one.Difference is too big 
    Hard to follow when you keep switching back and forth between the ZR1 and Z06.

    Regardless, it does make sense for the gap to widen as they're modded, because the Z06 is lighter, so it takes less changes to make it handle better.

    It would be interesting to put both of these cars (stock) around the twisty circuit and see how they compare, then go from there.
  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    HeissRod said:
    krystian said:
    HeissRod said:
    From what I can tell, since most of the car is covered by the numbers, that's the A26 Corvette Z06, so 88 stock; 2 points higher than the Nissan.
    It's from the vid I posted before and you asked if got anything to do with it...Did you watched?Yes 2 grip more on standard cars and 3 more grip on maxed one.Difference is too big 
    Hard to follow when you keep switching back and forth between the ZR1 and Z06.

    Regardless, it does make sense for the gap to widen as they're modded, because the Z06 is lighter, so it takes less changes to make it handle better.

    It would be interesting to put both of these cars (stock) around the twisty circuit and see how they compare, then go from there.
    I never compare ZR1 to GTR.It's obvious that GTR is much worst than ZR1.I compare ZR1 to 720S and GTR to Z06.
  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    @HeissRod don't get me wrong!!I love corvette.It's great car like many US cars.Just that grip difference of 3 points isn't acceptable for me.I posted above screenshot of corvette from 1993 with 95 grip.Do you really thing GTR from 2014 handle as corvette from 1993?And yes I accept that corvette handle better and should have 1 more grip than GTR but not 3 points.3 grip points it's huge difference.I also posted screenshot of Evo X grip on skidpad of 0.99G where in game have 98 grip and It's simalar to GTR skidpad result.Can you replay what do you think about it?You avoiding comment about it...why?
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  • krystiankrystian Member Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭
    And man I'm not here to argue with you.I also apologize if you or any US player felt offended by my posts but I want game to be accurate how it should be.GTR is great of the line with **** MRA...Corvette have great MRA and It's like should be but grip for 29 RQ car is one of the lowest IG and it isn't right
  • jczerojczero Member Posts: 638 ✭✭✭✭
    krystian said:
    HeissRod said:
    Before arbitrarily saying something should happen, did you research it?

    Here is a road test on a 2014 GT-R Track Edition (which the in-game car is not, just a base model) - Instrumented lateral grip of 1.02g
    https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-nissan-gt-r-track-edition-instrumented-test-review

    And here is a road test of a 2015 Corvette Z06 - Instrumented lateral grip of 1.17g
    https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a22861/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-first-drive-review/
    All I try to say that GTR grip is to low.Should have similar grip to Evo X.And yes my research was between Evo and GTR.In that case corvette should have better grip than 99.
    @HeissRod I’m not sure if @krystian has researched it, but you sure sound like you’ve drove it. Perhaps you should al just let hutch decide (which is what happens in the end every time in this game) what stats to put instead of acting all like pros with online resources?
  • JacoJaco Member Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭✭
    American cars aren't only fast straight forward cars anymore? They actually can take corners nowadays?
  • TomTurboTomTurbo Member Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jaco said:
    American cars aren't only fast straight forward cars anymore? They actually can take corners nowadays?
    only in Top Drives  ;)
  • TomTurboTomTurbo Member Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2018
    I‘m not gonna say anything bad about US cars (or cars from any other Country) here, but the grip for the Nissan GT-R actually IS too low compared to some others (european cars as well), and I think I remember this has been mentioned already (and agreed by quite some players) about a year ago
  • MettitiMettiti Member Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TomTurbo said:
    I‘m not gonna say anything bad about US cars (or cars from any other Country) here, but the grip for the Nissan GT-R actually IS too low compared to some others (european cars as well), and I think I remember this has been mentioned already (and agreed by quite some players) about a year ago
    like ride heights and some other specs, grip stats are also mostly eyeballed in this game
  • HeissRodHeissRod Member Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    krystian said:
    And man I'm not here to argue with you.I also apologize if you or any US player felt offended by my posts but I want game to be accurate how it should be.GTR is great of the line with **** MRA...Corvette have great MRA and It's like should be but grip for 29 RQ car is one of the lowest IG and it isn't right
    I also apologize for any offense I conveyed. :)
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