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  • TGPDTGPD Member Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ozzman said:
    mazeoops said:

    Any faster rare car than this?

    I heard midrange is bad
    Can anyone confirm this (preferably with a 996 tune)? I just wanted to start maxing it out...


    I confirm, this car is a disappointment. Terrible midrange. The Corvette 396 is faster even on a 1/4 mile, and destroys it on the longer drags. It may be good for 0-60, but that's it.

    1/4 times
    Plymouth: 13,13
    Corvette 396: 12,93

    1/2 times
    Plymouth: 21,26
    Corvette 396: 20,16

    1 mile times:
    Plymouth: 35,63
    Corvette 396: 32,90
    E-Type (RQ11): 35,10

    75-125 times:
    Plymouth: 21,43
    Corvette 396: 10,16
    Mercedes 300SL (RQ7): 15,80

    That's how bad it is.

    "Fast"back
  • OzzmanOzzman Member Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TGPD said:
    Ozzman said:
    mazeoops said:

    Any faster rare car than this?

    I heard midrange is bad
    Can anyone confirm this (preferably with a 996 tune)? I just wanted to start maxing it out...


    I confirm, this car is a disappointment. Terrible midrange. The Corvette 396 is faster even on a 1/4 mile, and destroys it on the longer drags. It may be good for 0-60, but that's it.

    1/4 times
    Plymouth: 13,13
    Corvette 396: 12,93

    1/2 times
    Plymouth: 21,26
    Corvette 396: 20,16

    1 mile times:
    Plymouth: 35,63
    Corvette 396: 32,90
    E-Type (RQ11): 35,10

    75-125 times:
    Plymouth: 21,43
    Corvette 396: 10,16
    Mercedes 300SL (RQ7): 15,80

    That's how bad it is.

    "Fast"back

    Well it will beat the Corvette on twisty tracks I guess, but who uses a Corvette on a twisty track anyway? Might be useful in an event where you have to use your drag car on twisties as well, but it's definitely not the new drag king of the Rare class.
  • hajduk_fanhajduk_fan Member Posts: 293 ✭✭✭
    think Durango should be 4wd so 303 as that will probably change in future, better to upgrade ASAP
    Corvette might be 033 candidate, test its midrange (1 mile, 0-120 and 0-150) at 3x 1.3 vs some similar car (maybe Camaro Z/28), that will make decision easier
    don't know about Cadillac
  • OzzmanOzzman Member Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A bit more testing regarding the 699-gate. :)

    I have a couple of cars with both 969 and 699 tunes, tested them on standing slalom, here are the results:

    969 beats 699:
    RQ22 Ford RS200
    RQ17 Fiat Abarth 124 Spider
    RQ17 Nissan Datsun 240Z Rally Car
    RQ16 Lotus Elise
    RQ15 Lotus Elise 1.6
    RQ15 Mazda RX-8 PZ
    RQ13 Mazda MX-5 BBR Turbo

    969 draws 699:
    RQ9 Caterham Seven 160

    969 loses to 699:
    RQ6 Alfa Romeo Alfasud Sprint
    RQ4 Citroen Mehari 4x4

    So it seems the lower the RQ the less effect the update had on the 699 versions?

  • hajduk_fanhajduk_fan Member Posts: 293 ✭✭✭
    anyone tested and can tell me if these cars are worth keeping?

    RQ13 RAM 1st Gen (4wd off)
    RQ13 Plymouth Duster 340
    RQ12 Chevrolet SSR

    my guess is not worth except for RAM but don't wanna sell before i check
  • greddygreddy Member Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am definetly keeping RAM, every offroad car seems useful. About others not sure, but i am gonna keep every new car for now, I expect a lot events using new cars in next few weeks. 
  • HeissRodHeissRod Member Posts: 4,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ozzman said:
    mazeoops said:

    Any faster rare car than this?

    I heard midrange is bad
    Can anyone confirm this (preferably with a 996 tune)? I just wanted to start maxing it out...


    I confirm, this car is a disappointment. Terrible midrange. The Corvette 396 is faster even on a 1/4 mile, and destroys it on the longer drags. It may be good for 0-60, but that's it.

    1/4 times
    Plymouth: 13,13
    Corvette 396: 12,93

    1/2 times
    Plymouth: 21,26
    Corvette 396: 20,16

    1 mile times:
    Plymouth: 35,63
    Corvette 396: 32,90
    E-Type (RQ11): 35,10

    75-125 times:
    Plymouth: 21,43
    Corvette 396: 10,16
    Mercedes 300SL (RQ7): 15,80

    That's how bad it is.

    Well, that really sucks as a Rare replacement for the El Camino.
  • mikesmikes Member Posts: 3,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Plymouth Duster RQ13 is equally disappointing. With standard tires, loses to Monte Carlo in all acceleration contests.
  • HeissRodHeissRod Member Posts: 4,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For those wondering, here are times for the 996 Aerovette

    1/4 Mile
    11.90

    1/2 Mile
    18.73

    1 Mile
    30.60

    75-125 MPH
    8.20
  • TGPDTGPD Member Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's see if the Roadrunner is any better.
  • HeissRodHeissRod Member Posts: 4,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    mikes said:
    Plymouth Duster RQ13 is equally disappointing. With standard tires, loses to Monte Carlo in all acceleration contests.
    With the low top speed, I was guessing it would not be a Monte Carlo beater
  • BoxtaSBoxtaS Member Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So... for the time being is 699 now totally useless against 969 the same car? (In most cases) 
  • hajduk_fanhajduk_fan Member Posts: 293 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2018
    HeissRod said:
    Ozzman said:
    mazeoops said:

    Any faster rare car than this?

    I heard midrange is bad
    Can anyone confirm this (preferably with a 996 tune)? I just wanted to start maxing it out...


    I confirm, this car is a disappointment. Terrible midrange. The Corvette 396 is faster even on a 1/4 mile, and destroys it on the longer drags. It may be good for 0-60, but that's it.

    1/4 times
    Plymouth: 13,13
    Corvette 396: 12,93

    1/2 times
    Plymouth: 21,26
    Corvette 396: 20,16

    1 mile times:
    Plymouth: 35,63
    Corvette 396: 32,90
    E-Type (RQ11): 35,10

    75-125 times:
    Plymouth: 21,43
    Corvette 396: 10,16
    Mercedes 300SL (RQ7): 15,80

    That's how bad it is.

    Well, that really sucks as a Rare replacement for the El Camino.
    couple more fuses and i'll test that rq13 Dodge Challenger to see its midrange

    top speed suggests that one might have **** midrange too :(
    Post edited by Gsearch on
  • lg29lg29 Member Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭
    bobdylan said:
    12rq? This should be swift in a straight line
    i just pulled one... but i sold it... 
  • grandvachegrandvache Member Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Preliminary testing suggests this is now the fastest epic drag car, in the dry at least.  
  • Huskic69Huskic69 Member Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Preliminary testing suggests this is now the fastest epic drag car, in the dry at least.  
    Laughs in amg gt
  • DoupaoDoupao Member Posts: 376 ✭✭✭
    BoxtaS said:
    bobdylan said:
    12rq? This should be swift in a straight line
    I like the look of that too, and this: 

    that challenger us very bad
  • David_FookDavid_Fook Member Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doupao said:
    BoxtaS said:
    bobdylan said:
    12rq? This should be swift in a straight line
    I like the look of that too, and this: 

    that challenger us very bad
    This one better? Similar to other standard tyred cars but with a higher RQ. Better mid range?

  • flight4590flight4590 Member Posts: 550 ✭✭✭
    I have to ask for the sake of it is the 2006 Charger SRT-8 as good as its stats hype?  if so this is THE nail in the coffin for keeping the Mustang GT A class.
  • binnerbinner Member Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭
    Dunno why the regular turbo got upgraded to 30 RQ from 29. It was nice to have the option to run it to save 1rq especially seen in the current Porsche event. But now it’ll never get picked over my other 2. I still really think the RQ limits need to be increased to avoid stuff like this. Has basically made the car useless to me unless in non RQ limited events 
  • Sherby90Sherby90 Member Posts: 304 ✭✭✭
    TD01055 said:
    Doupao said:
    BoxtaS said:
    bobdylan said:
    12rq? This should be swift in a straight line
    I like the look of that too, and this: 

    that challenger us very bad
    This one better? Similar to other standard tyred cars but with a higher RQ. Better mid range?

    Just tested it a bit. Gets wrecked by the Corvette 396 in 1 mile by 4 seconds... Stock Vs stock
  • hajduk_fanhajduk_fan Member Posts: 293 ✭✭✭
    edited October 2018
    so conclusion is that all new rare dragsters are **** compared to Corvette and Monte Carlo
    Post edited by Gsearch on
  • binnerbinner Member Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭
    binner said:
    Dunno why the regular turbo got upgraded to 30 RQ from 29. It was nice to have the option to run it to save 1rq especially seen in the current Porsche event. But now it’ll never get picked over my other 2. I still really think the RQ limits need to be increased to avoid stuff like this. Has basically made the car useless to me unless in non RQ limited events 
    This is a good point. Separation in RQ for some of the big manufacturers would provide some gameplay benefit. This is mainly a result of just more cars, and the numbers at each RQ tier increasing. RQ 30 is still the smallest RQ tier.

    If we do ever go to 35 or 40 max RQ, I would be open to having Legendary tier cars take up more of those slots, so that we can have greater granularity at the top end. In the short term, we could just make the RQ 30 tier have fewer models, but you don't get to go too far with that before the Turbo S becomes a 29 RQ, too.

    I definitely take your point - it's more interesting if there's an RQ difference between the cars.
    Just for example before the update I was able to rotate between the two hands above, depending on the hands my opponents are running. Giving a more strategic element to the event. However now I can only feasibly run the bottom hand and it would never make sense to swap out the 918 for my 911 turbo or even my turbo S pretty much making them useless since the 918 is so much better for he same RQ cost. And there are tons of other examples of this with cars in the legendary and epic range... eg. the newly raised KTM Xbow RR to 26 RQ when the super light and the furai are way better choices for the same RQ cost and similar stats (light twisty cars)
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