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  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    Gotta love this result 



    Probably because of TC. 
    Beause when I race them in campaign races.
    Caddy wins by ABS braking,
    GMC wins by ABS and TC.
    Rear wheel drive and performance tires? Yeah it shouldn't be winning anything there
    RWD is great for offroad. Fwd is not viable.
    But it has High ground clearence too. And it was dry dirt.
    Bro, it has performance tires. I don't think you understand that part
    And I don't think you understand that this game is more than only right tyres when one car is much weaker in overall

    GMC pros
    Lower 0-60
    Has Traction Control
    Has much less weight vs Cadillac.
    And that all allows to win despite it has Performance tyres.
  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭
    Wait what

    Why would that be unexpected?
    Most cars in rain is better with slightly higher weight.  To upgrade rain specialist as 233 is very risky, because there is only few cars at high RQ which would be better than 323. 
    And slalom in general is better as 323.
  • evilprofesseurevilprofesseur Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    REALAIS said:
    Wait what

    Why would that be unexpected?
    Most cars in rain is better with slightly higher weight.  To upgrade rain specialist as 233 is very risky, because there is only few cars at high RQ which would be better than 323. 
    And slalom in general is better as 323.
    right. the thing is that in this case it's a 969 vs 996 as the difference in handling makes clear
  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    REALAIS said:
    Wait what

    Why would that be unexpected?
    Most cars in rain is better with slightly higher weight.  To upgrade rain specialist as 233 is very risky, because there is only few cars at high RQ which would be better than 323. 
    And slalom in general is better as 323.
    right. the thing is that in this case it's a 969 vs 996 as the difference in handling makes clear
    Sry, my bad, didnt checked car stats properly. I would say, totally unexpected.
    Or that car is Unicorn.
  • milewski1015milewski1015 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭✭✭
    REALAIS said:
    Wait what

    Why would that be unexpected?
    Most cars in rain is better with slightly higher weight.  To upgrade rain specialist as 233 is very risky, because there is only few cars at high RQ which would be better than 323. 
    And slalom in general is better as 323.
    right. the thing is that in this case it's a 969 vs 996 as the difference in handling makes clear
    That’s a 699 vs. 996. 969 is 5.5/86
  • evilprofesseurevilprofesseur Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    REALAIS said:
    Wait what

    Why would that be unexpected?
    Most cars in rain is better with slightly higher weight.  To upgrade rain specialist as 233 is very risky, because there is only few cars at high RQ which would be better than 323. 
    And slalom in general is better as 323.
    right. the thing is that in this case it's a 969 vs 996 as the difference in handling makes clear
    That’s a 699 vs. 996. 969 is 5.5/86
    oh shi, right, forgot which one i placed there. a bit less weird but still very weird, even consider the fabled engine traction bonus
  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    Gotta love this result 



    Probably because of TC. 
    Beause when I race them in campaign races.
    Caddy wins by ABS braking,
    GMC wins by ABS and TC.
    Rear wheel drive and performance tires? Yeah it shouldn't be winning anything there
    RWD is great for offroad. Fwd is not viable.
    But it has High ground clearence too. And it was dry dirt.
    Bro, it has performance tires. I don't think you understand that part
    And I don't think you understand that this game is more than only right tyres when one car is much weaker in overall

    GMC pros
    Lower 0-60
    Has Traction Control
    Has much less weight vs Cadillac.
    And that all allows to win despite it has Performance tyres.
    Lol ok man, I'm not gonna keep arguing with you. Believe whatever you want
    What? Its not "Believe", those are facts. To push up car up the hill you need power. Cadillac has less power per kg than GMC. 
    And again, that Hill is Dry dirt, it is not so steep as Wet/Dirt. 


  • NinjaDesignzNinjaDesignz Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    Gotta love this result 



    Probably because of TC. 
    Beause when I race them in campaign races.
    Caddy wins by ABS braking,
    GMC wins by ABS and TC.
    Rear wheel drive and performance tires? Yeah it shouldn't be winning anything there
    RWD is great for offroad. Fwd is not viable.
    But it has High ground clearence too. And it was dry dirt.
    Bro, it has performance tires. I don't think you understand that part
    And I don't think you understand that this game is more than only right tyres when one car is much weaker in overall

    GMC pros
    Lower 0-60
    Has Traction Control
    Has much less weight vs Cadillac.
    And that all allows to win despite it has Performance tyres.
    Lol ok man, I'm not gonna keep arguing with you. Believe whatever you want
    What? Its not "Believe", those are facts. To push up car up the hill you need power. Cadillac has less power per kg than GMC. 
    And again, that Hill is Dry dirt, it is not so steep as Wet/Dirt. 


    Just cause you said it doesn't make it fact lol. Also, tires make a huge difference on non ideal conditions. If you can't put the power down, you're not going anywhere.

    P.S. The steepness of the track will remain the same no matter the condition of the track. Only the conditions change 
  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    Gotta love this result 



    Probably because of TC. 
    Beause when I race them in campaign races.
    Caddy wins by ABS braking,
    GMC wins by ABS and TC.
    Rear wheel drive and performance tires? Yeah it shouldn't be winning anything there
    RWD is great for offroad. Fwd is not viable.
    But it has High ground clearence too. And it was dry dirt.
    Bro, it has performance tires. I don't think you understand that part
    And I don't think you understand that this game is more than only right tyres when one car is much weaker in overall

    GMC pros
    Lower 0-60
    Has Traction Control
    Has much less weight vs Cadillac.
    And that all allows to win despite it has Performance tyres.
    Lol ok man, I'm not gonna keep arguing with you. Believe whatever you want
    What? Its not "Believe", those are facts. To push up car up the hill you need power. Cadillac has less power per kg than GMC. 
    And again, that Hill is Dry dirt, it is not so steep as Wet/Dirt. 


    Just cause you said it doesn't make it fact lol. Also, tires make a huge difference on non ideal conditions. If you can't put the power down, you're not going anywhere.

    P.S. The steepness of the track will remain the same no matter the condition of the track. Only the conditions change 
    But Game engine says otherwise. GMC Denali has every other aspect of car good enough to overcome Performance tyres caused issues. Why would that be surprise?
    Same as Subaru XT can climb Dry Dirt Hill Climb. It is Low ground clearence, but 4wd + Standard tyres are enough to compensate that issue.
  • Parimal_2000Parimal_2000 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭
    This guy is not a car guy as you can tell.
  • RWareRWare Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This one made me lol

    Reason was.....Mid Range Accel  :D
  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭
    This guy is not a car guy as you can tell.
    And you are, I guess. 
  • David_FookDavid_Fook Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    Can you guys stop it? We’ve had threads shut down due to arguing and this one is pretty important. Agree to disagree?
  • hillclimberhillclimber Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2019
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    Gotta love this result 



    Probably because of TC. 
    Beause when I race them in campaign races.
    Caddy wins by ABS braking,
    GMC wins by ABS and TC.
    Rear wheel drive and performance tires? Yeah it shouldn't be winning anything there
    RWD is great for offroad. Fwd is not viable.
    But it has High ground clearence too. And it was dry dirt.
    Bro, it has performance tires. I don't think you understand that part
    And I don't think you understand that this game is more than only right tyres when one car is much weaker in overall

    GMC pros
    Lower 0-60
    Has Traction Control
    Has much less weight vs Cadillac.
    And that all allows to win despite it has Performance tyres.
    Lol ok man, I'm not gonna keep arguing with you. Believe whatever you want
    What? Its not "Believe", those are facts. To push up car up the hill you need power. Cadillac has less power per kg than GMC. 
    And again, that Hill is Dry dirt, it is not so steep as Wet/Dirt. 


    Just cause you said it doesn't make it fact lol. Also, tires make a huge difference on non ideal conditions. If you can't put the power down, you're not going anywhere.

    P.S. The steepness of the track will remain the same no matter the condition of the track. Only the conditions change 
    But Game engine says otherwise. GMC Denali has every other aspect of car good enough to overcome Performance tyres caused issues. Why would that be surprise?
    Same as Subaru XT can climb Dry Dirt Hill Climb. It is Low ground clearence, but 4wd + Standard tyres are enough to compensate that issue.
    because you would expect a car with performance tires and RWD come fast to the maximum of friction that can be provided. to prevent wheel spin the AI would than trigger down the power (indicated by the orange triangle). from previous discussions seasoned players know this slows down a lot.
  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭
    I understand your point, and that makes sense. I have only one explanation for that.
    Hill climb Dry dirt by itself is problem for players understanding.
    I would say, that Dry dirt surface has too much grip what we are expecting in general and thats why performance tyres can get up quickly.
    And only way how to limit high performance cars is to make that surface more loose, leaning towards Sand surface.
  • rucoporucopo Posts: 9
    edited July 2019
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    REALAIS said:
    Gotta love this result 



    Probably because of TC. 
    Beause when I race them in campaign races.
    Caddy wins by ABS braking,
    GMC wins by ABS and TC.
    Rear wheel drive and performance tires? Yeah it shouldn't be winning anything there
    RWD is great for offroad. Fwd is not viable.
    But it has High ground clearence too. And it was dry dirt.
    Bro, it has performance tires. I don't think you understand that part
    And I don't think you understand that this game is more than only right tyres when one car is much weaker in overall

    GMC pros
    Lower 0-60
    Has Traction Control
    Has much less weight vs Cadillac.
    And that all allows to win despite it has Performance tyres.
    Lol ok man, I'm not gonna keep arguing with you. Believe whatever you want
    What? Its not "Believe", those are facts. To push up car up the hill you need power. Cadillac has less power per kg than GMC. 
    And again, that Hill is Dry dirt, it is not so steep as Wet/Dirt. 


    Just cause you said it doesn't make it fact lol. Also, tires make a huge difference on non ideal conditions. If you can't put the power down, you're not going anywhere.

    P.S. The steepness of the track will remain the same no matter the condition of the track. Only the conditions change 
    But Game engine says otherwise. GMC Denali has every other aspect of car good enough to overcome Performance tyres caused issues. Why would that be surprise?
    Same as Subaru XT can climb Dry Dirt Hill Climb. It is Low ground clearence, but 4wd + Standard tyres are enough to compensate that issue.
    because you would expect a car with performance tires and RWD come fast to the maximum of friction that can be provided. to prevent wheel spin the AI would than trigger down the power (indicated by the orange triangle). from previous discussions seasoned players know this slows down a lot.

    What about hill climb bonus ? 
    The gmc is a pick up truck. Does it have a bonus ? 
    Or maybe the escalade is not given the suv advantage ? 


    p.s   just signed up. I have been watching the forums for a long time but never decided to comment anything. I have been playing top drives since December 2017. I spend about 20-30€ per month and my luck is super bad !
  • TGPDTGPD Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    REALAIS said:
    I understand your point, and that makes sense. I have only one explanation for that.
    Hill climb Dry dirt by itself is problem for players understanding.
    I would say, that Dry dirt surface has too much grip what we are expecting in general and thats why performance tyres can get up quickly.
    And only way how to limit high performance cars is to make that surface more loose, leaning towards Sand surface.
    That looks like at least a 20% slope, and mind you, the surface is uneven and is full of small stones. Any performance tyres will wheelspin the **** on that surface, let alone if its RWD.
    Didn't Hutch make pickups have a traction bonus or something?
  • RobGripesRobGripes Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TGPD said:
    REALAIS said:
    I understand your point, and that makes sense. I have only one explanation for that.
    Hill climb Dry dirt by itself is problem for players understanding.
    I would say, that Dry dirt surface has too much grip what we are expecting in general and thats why performance tyres can get up quickly.
    And only way how to limit high performance cars is to make that surface more loose, leaning towards Sand surface.
    That looks like at least a 20% slope, and mind you, the surface is uneven and is full of small stones. Any performance tyres will wheelspin the **** on that surface, let alone if its RWD.
    Didn't Hutch make pickups have a traction bonus or something?

    I think that was SUVs making the XL7 Pikes Peak phenomenal. 
  • hillclimberhillclimber Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RobGripes said:
    TGPD said:
    REALAIS said:
    I understand your point, and that makes sense. I have only one explanation for that.
    Hill climb Dry dirt by itself is problem for players understanding.
    I would say, that Dry dirt surface has too much grip what we are expecting in general and thats why performance tyres can get up quickly.
    And only way how to limit high performance cars is to make that surface more loose, leaning towards Sand surface.
    That looks like at least a 20% slope, and mind you, the surface is uneven and is full of small stones. Any performance tyres will wheelspin the **** on that surface, let alone if its RWD.
    Didn't Hutch make pickups have a traction bonus or something?

    I think that was SUVs making the XL7 Pikes Peak phenomenal. 
    there's a SUV and a Pickup bonus.
  • 0171801718 Posts: 498 ✭✭✭
    Regarding the Escalade vs. Denali discussion: It is a rolling start which makes quite the difference here. I think this hasn't been mentioned before.
  • nel1978nel1978 Posts: 172 ✭✭✭

    Strange 🤔
  • RWareRWare Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ^ Not sure what happened there. I just watched my Round 21 matches.

    The Touareg does the Highway in 57:13 and the Dodge Monaco does the Car Park in 41:10
  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭
    Seems like engine swap before race.
  • grandvachegrandvache Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Erm ... What now??
  • evilprofesseurevilprofesseur Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmmm

  • REALAISREALAIS Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭


    Erm ... What now??
    Seems that ICE wants some extra weight.
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